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small feedback - choose component needs an expanded jar(?)
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse [email protected] wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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One thought I've had: DrawFBP saves its profile stuff when it closes down - one possible explanation for the jar file problem is if it crashed, or you closed it down without clicking on the little 'x'. If it didn't close down properly, we need to know what you were doing just before!
Regards,
Paul M.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM Paul Morrison [email protected] wrote:
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse < [email protected]> wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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Hi Paul,
Can I suggest that the JavaFBP Jar File location, and all other user settings that should be preserved, be saved and updated immediately to storage, to avoid loss of context when resuming after a disorderly shutdown.
I must admit I often just "close all programs" (one type of disorderly shutdown) after a session, so I've noticed this sometimes and never mentioned it.
I realise it would help you if there were some test results, to point out the areas that need to be updated. I'll include these in the "tutorial regression test" feedback.
Before I finish the tutorial regression testing, I'll change the steps 00 and 03 as Darren suggests. Trying by iPad for the first time...
Kind regards, Bob
On 3 Jul 2019, at 17:55, Paul Morrison <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
One thought I've had: DrawFBP saves its profile stuff when it closes down - one possible explanation for the jar file problem is if it crashed, or you closed it down without clicking on the little 'x'. If it didn't close down properly, we need to know what you were doing just before!
Regards,
Paul M.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM Paul Morrison <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse < [email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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Good idea! I was thinking I should do that! I have made the necessary changes, and will put it up on the Release directory later today. Hopefully, I will have fixed Darren's other problem also!
TIA for the changes to Step00 and Step03...!
Best regards,
Paul
On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 3:20 PM bobcorrick [email protected] wrote:
Hi Paul,
Can I suggest that the JavaFBP Jar File location, and all other user settings that should be preserved, be saved and updated immediately to storage, to avoid loss of context when resuming after a disorderly shutdown.
I must admit I often just "close all programs" (one type of disorderly shutdown) after a session, so I've noticed this sometimes and never mentioned it.
I realise it would help you if there were some test results, to point out the areas that need to be updated. I'll include these in the "tutorial regression test" feedback.
Before I finish the tutorial regression testing, I'll change the steps 00 and 03 as Darren suggests. Trying by iPad for the first time...
Kind regards, Bob
On 3 Jul 2019, at 17:55, Paul Morrison <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
One thought I've had: DrawFBP saves its profile stuff when it closes down
one possible explanation for the jar file problem is if it crashed, or you closed it down without clicking on the little 'x'. If it didn't close down properly, we need to know what you were doing just before!
Regards,
Paul M.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM Paul Morrison <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse < [email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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Hi Paul, Darren / GitHub,
In the GitHub project 'fbp-tutorial-filter-file', the README for Step00 has been updated to clarify the Java environment, including Java Help facility and the preparation of the JavaFBP classes.
I will revisit to amend my markdown mistakes, and any outdated advice, in due course.
I'll also simplify as far as possible, depending on DrawFBP updates and releases.
By the way, I was able to reproduce the issue that Darren reported (being unable to select a JavaFBP component until the .jar file had been expanded). So I've explained how to do that, as part of the Java setup.
From: Paul Morrison [email protected] Sent: 05 July 2019 15:40 To: jpaulm/fbp-tutorial-filter-file Cc: bobcorrick; Comment Subject: Re: [jpaulm/fbp-tutorial-filter-file] small feedback - choose component needs an expanded jar(?) (#6)
Good idea! I was thinking I should do that! I have made the necessary changes, and will put it up on the Release directory later today. Hopefully, I will have fixed Darren's other problem also!
TIA for the changes to Step00 and Step03...!
Best regards,
Paul
On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 3:20 PM bobcorrick [email protected] wrote:
Hi Paul,
Can I suggest that the JavaFBP Jar File location, and all other user settings that should be preserved, be saved and updated immediately to storage, to avoid loss of context when resuming after a disorderly shutdown.
I must admit I often just "close all programs" (one type of disorderly shutdown) after a session, so I've noticed this sometimes and never mentioned it.
I realise it would help you if there were some test results, to point out the areas that need to be updated. I'll include these in the "tutorial regression test" feedback.
Before I finish the tutorial regression testing, I'll change the steps 00 and 03 as Darren suggests. Trying by iPad for the first time...
Kind regards, Bob
On 3 Jul 2019, at 17:55, Paul Morrison <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
One thought I've had: DrawFBP saves its profile stuff when it closes down
one possible explanation for the jar file problem is if it crashed, or you closed it down without clicking on the little 'x'. If it didn't close down properly, we need to know what you were doing just before!
Regards,
Paul M.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM Paul Morrison <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse < [email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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Don't understand why you have to expand the JavaFBP jar file - works fine for me, unexpanded!
What was the issue this addresses? Oh, I found where Darren describes this...
However, I have never had to do this.
Darren, could you show me where this is implied?! What happens when you tried to use it unexpanded? Maybe you could raise it as an issue...?
Thanks, guys,
Paul
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:02 PM Bob Corrick [email protected] wrote:
Hi Paul, Darren / GitHub,
In the GitHub project 'fbp-tutorial-filter-file', the README for Step00 has been updated to clarify the Java environment, including Java Help facility and the preparation of the JavaFBP classes.
I will revisit to amend my markdown mistakes, and any outdated advice, in due course.
I'll also simplify as far as possible, depending on DrawFBP updates and releases.
By the way, I was able to reproduce the issue that Darren reported (being unable to select a JavaFBP component until the .jar file had been expanded). So I've explained how to do that, as part of the Java setup.
From: Paul Morrison [email protected] Sent: 05 July 2019 15:40 To: jpaulm/fbp-tutorial-filter-file Cc: bobcorrick; Comment Subject: Re: [jpaulm/fbp-tutorial-filter-file] small feedback - choose component needs an expanded jar(?) (#6)
Good idea! I was thinking I should do that! I have made the necessary changes, and will put it up on the Release directory later today. Hopefully, I will have fixed Darren's other problem also!
TIA for the changes to Step00 and Step03...!
Best regards,
Paul
On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 3:20 PM bobcorrick [email protected] wrote:
Hi Paul,
Can I suggest that the JavaFBP Jar File location, and all other user settings that should be preserved, be saved and updated immediately to storage, to avoid loss of context when resuming after a disorderly shutdown.
I must admit I often just "close all programs" (one type of disorderly shutdown) after a session, so I've noticed this sometimes and never mentioned it.
I realise it would help you if there were some test results, to point out the areas that need to be updated. I'll include these in the "tutorial regression test" feedback.
Before I finish the tutorial regression testing, I'll change the steps 00 and 03 as Darren suggests. Trying by iPad for the first time...
Kind regards, Bob
On 3 Jul 2019, at 17:55, Paul Morrison <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
One thought I've had: DrawFBP saves its profile stuff when it closes down
one possible explanation for the jar file problem is if it crashed, or you closed it down without clicking on the little 'x'. If it didn't close down properly, we need to know what you were doing just before!
Regards,
Paul M.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM Paul Morrison <[email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>> wrote:
Some good ideas here! Bob, could you expand the setup and/or Step03 section as Darren recommends...?
The Locate JavaFBP Jar File works for me - Bob, can you duplicate this problem?
Thanks, and best regards,
Paul
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darren Carl Cruse < [email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
just another small bit of feedback
things went smooth for me till step 3 but then "Choose Component" wouldn't work
your text there kind of hinted (but if It said so explicitly I missed it?) that Choose Component needs access to the individual class files so I expanded my javafbp jar and now it's working
for me being new maybe that earlier step about the DrawFBP install needs a more explicit sister step for JavaFBP Install that tells them to expand the jar?
(also I don't think so far it's remembering the "Locate JavaFBP Jar File" choice it's asked me several times like it hasn't remembered not sure maybe that we'll stop...)
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Sorry, Darren, for some reason I didn't understand your original post - it seems there is a bug, and what you describe is a workaround! I never ran across it in testing as I had added the JavaFBP jar file to my PATH variable a long time ago, and never moved it, so my stuff worked! Apologies to you and Bob!
Looking back, I see you said "wouldn't work" - in future maybe you could be more specific...!
Darren, me again! I just spent 1/2 a day apparently barking up the wrong tree! Could you let us know what was the bug you ran into?
Thx,
Paul
Well gosh sorry about this I just removed my expanded jar and tried Choose Component/Subnet Class against the unexpanded jar and it did work for me.
All I can figure is the "Files of Type" dropdown was initially on "Class files" and I changed it just now before I was able to choose the jar file.
I guess the other day I didn't notice/think/understand to change that Files of Type dropdown and jumped to the conclusion I needed to expand the jar(!!).