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Cultures: Africa
So... guess it's your own fault for bringing Africa to my attention. Here we go: I'm simply posting an exhaustive list of my suggestions with new groups and their cultures, and include some source pictures as well as explanations afterwards.
Niger-Congo: -Mande->Mandinka -Soninke -Wolof+ -Sosso+->Susu -Akan#future -Kru#future -Fulani#future -Mende*?#future
Chadic: -Hausa
Cushitic: -Beja+ -Somali -Afar*?
Songhay-Saharan: -Songhay -Kanuri -Zaghawa
Eastern-Sudanic: -Daju -Nubian
South Semitic: -Ethiopian[Amharic] -Soqotri* -Tigrayan*? -Mehri["South Arabic" variant]*?
Legend: "+" denotes existing Plus culture "*" denotes suggested new culture "?" denotes an undecided candidacy "->" denotes a renaming suggestion "[ ]" denotes an alternate name for clarification, which need not be changed to "#future" denotes cultures planned for inclusion after the map transition, when ore parts of West Africa are included
Sources (just the pictures, ofc there are Wikipedia articles as well): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Afro-Asiatic_languages_-_Karte_der_Afroasiatischen_Sprachen.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Map_of_the_Niger%E2%80%93Congo_languages.svg/1342px-Map_of_the_Niger%E2%80%93Congo_languages.svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Africa_ethnic_groups_1996.jpg
Explanations:
- Rename Mandé to Mandinka because "Mandé" is actually a group of cultures that includes Soninke.
- Rename Sosso to Susu to because while "Sosso" is the name of a related empire, Susu is the English spelling for the language/people. (I think I said that before for old Plus, but since we are editing from scratch we can change the code name as well and not just localisation.)
- Hausa would be yet another single culture group. Yes, yes, I know. But they are apparently not closely related to anything even today, and don't have any significant subgroups.
- And I'm not sure about a few comparably smaller cultures, which are denoted with a question mark.
dokay sounds good. Not sure about Ethiopian though. It is it sensible to have an cultural group like byzantine for that?
A group that is not linguistic but based on cultural similarity. So Ethiopian group to unite these disparate cultures?
Hmm I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habesha_peoples So you are actually right, there is some sort of broader group defined which includes more than just Amhara and linguistically related cultures. However, the main culture(s) grouped together that are not already part of South Semitic would be just "Agaw" which I had not suggested as an addition, as well es even smaller ones. And possibly Beja; but that would then leave Somali pretty exposed, because that one is only included in Habesha in modern time where it is basically used in the sense of "any people living in Ethiopia, the country" and thus has little to do with culture/ethnicity.
Meh, tbh I have no opinion on that. I don't think it should be on the map in history, but we could leave it in for shattered world. Or if someone (Paradox?) ever should happen to make another bookmark. But then, we could also easily re-add it later. Yeah I don't mind either way, I'd leave that decision to you.
Meh, tbh I have no opinion on that. I don't think it should be on the map in history, but we could leave it in for shattered world. Or if someone (Paradox?) ever should happen to make another bookmark. But then, we could also easily re-add it later. Yeah I don't mind either way, I'd leave that decision to you.
I am gonna delete it, I am mad at Kaiser.
I have no more suggestions here. I'll get to implementing East African eventually.
I'd keep it like this in East Africa (Central and West you did already):
Cushitic:
- Beja+
- Somali
Eastern-Sudanic:
- Daju
- Nubian
South Semitic:
- Ethiopian[Amharic]
- Soqotri*
- Tigrayan*
Afar and Mehri were dropped. But the groups remain the same.
