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Open thomaslima opened this issue 7 years ago • 7 comments

navegando aleatoriamente pelo GitHub achei esse repo https://github.com/isaacs/github e vi teu nome e lembrei: soa familiar! um abc.

thomaslima avatar Oct 30 '18 03:10 thomaslima

Thomas! Are you doind light chips? I find it amazing that we can put lasers in semiconductors. There was a short presentation here at work about it.

I'm very curious to try out physical simulations of stuff. I saw your GitHub pins, they are very interesting. Does https://github.com/lukasc-ubc/SiEPIC_EBeam_PDK give physically accurate results? Are you using it on your research? (edit: OK, saw your lab has a fork, so I'm guessing yes :-))

@lukasc-ubc is destroying it with that open source stuff. I wish there was a "simulated vs experimental observation" graph on the README to show that simulations actually work. First link of REAME is broken.

klayout also looks cool, I'll try it out some time. @klayoutmatthias can it do any type of design rule check or cell characterization?

cirosantilli avatar Oct 30 '18 08:10 cirosantilli

@thomaslima also, have there been any commercial deployments of that kind of tech? Do you think it will make money in the next 10 years? :-) I hope you guys succeed.

cirosantilli avatar Oct 30 '18 10:10 cirosantilli

Some lightweight DRC engine is there. What do you mean by "Cell
characterization"?

Matthias

Quoting Ciro Santilli 包子露宪 六四事件 法轮功 [email protected]:

Thomas! Are you doind light chips? I find it amazing that we can put
lasers in semiconductors. There was a short presentation here at
work about it.

I'm very curious to try out physical simulations of stuff. I saw
your GitHub pins, they are very interesting. Does
https://github.com/lukasc-ubc/SiEPIC_EBeam_PDK give physically
accurate results? Are you using it on your research? (edit: OK, saw
your lab has a fork, so I'm guessing yes :-))

@lukasc-ubc is destroying it with that open source stuff. I wish
there was a "simulated vs experimental observation" graph on the
README to show that simulations actually work. First link of REAME
is broken.

klayout also looks cool, I'll try it out some time. @klayoutmatthias
can it do any type of design check or cell characterization?

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klayoutmatthias avatar Oct 30 '18 23:10 klayoutmatthias

Just saw these messages. I had just dropped a random hello after years without seeing you. LOL

Yes I work with photonic integrated circuits, but lasers are not the coolest part about them. =) Yes there are many examples of photonic chips deployed, mostly in telecom and sensing. Market is growing as well as layout, sim and verification tools.

thomaslima avatar Oct 31 '18 00:10 thomaslima

@klayoutmatthias

Some lightweight DRC engine is there. What do you mean by "Cell characterization"?

As in, you give the 3D description of a cell in a standard cell library, and get as output the electrical parameters required for digital circuit synthesis. I think the output format is Libiberty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_cell#Library but not sure.

cirosantilli avatar Oct 31 '18 06:10 cirosantilli

Yes, this is a term I understand. However, I you speak about CMOS
logic where .lib files apply, cell characterization is much more than
a layout operation. It involves transistor device and passive
component extraction and the ability to turn this extracted schematic
into a timing model. Specifically the latter is the domain of circuit
modelling and far beyond the scope of a layout engine.

Quoting Ciro Santilli 包子露宪 六四事件 法轮功 [email protected]:

@klayoutmatthias

Some lightweight DRC engine is there. What do you mean by "Cell
characterization"?

As in, you give the 3D description of a cell in a standard cell
library, and get as output the electrical parameters required for
digital circuit synthesis. I think the output format is Libiberty:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_cell#Library but not sure.

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klayoutmatthias avatar Nov 02 '18 21:11 klayoutmatthias

Yes, this is a term I understand. However, I you speak about CMOS logic where .lib files apply, cell characterization is much more than a layout operation. It involves transistor device and passive component extraction and the ability to turn this extracted schematic into a timing model. Specifically the latter is the domain of circuit modelling and far beyond the scope of a layout engine.

OK thanks for clarifying. One day, one day, my dream will come true :-)

cirosantilli avatar Nov 02 '18 22:11 cirosantilli