Mines armed with ace appear at different height in the ground to other clients

[Snak3Doc]

Arma 3 Version: 1.82 (stable) CBA Version: v3.7.1.180604 (stable) ACE3 Version: 3.12.2 (stable)

Mods:

• CBA
• ACE
• TFAR
• RHS RBG
• Lots of other stuff

Description: When a player arms an AT/AP mine, it will appear at a different height (y axis) in the ground to all other clients on the server, it's at the correct height in the ground for the person who arms it but everyone sees it lower in the ground (barely visible) or its completely underground, although the other clients can detect it and defuse it.

Spot the difference ;) https://i.imgur.com/mPuos05.jpg (LH Picture was taken by the person who armed the two M15's)

PS:

• It effects all AT/AP mines, but not ied's.
• The only ones that are visible to other clients are the taller models eg the RHS TM62-M (orange top) in the above image.

Steps to reproduce:

• Connect to a dedi server with multiple clients.
• Place two M15 AT mines on the ground arm one with ACE and the other with Scroll Wheel.
• The mine armed with vanilla will only have the inner ring visible for both the person who armed it and the other clients > https://i.imgur.com/CXp2ifN.png
• The mine armed with ace will have the outer ring visible and sit only just in the ground for the person who armed it > https://i.imgur.com/8tnKKxY.png but will be completely underground to other clients.
• Repeat process with other mines = same results.
• I haven't tested if this happens with Zeus placed mines as well.

Where did the issue occur?

• Dedicated

Placed Modules:

• Fortify

RPT log file:

• Will add later

[654wak654]

Could this have been by design? Whoever made this could've done it as a gameplay mechanic, where the mines get "buried". Since the person who put them down know where they are, they're still visible to them.

[Snak3Doc]

If that's the case it makes no sense (not sure if that's what jonpas means). The engineer sees it practically sitting on the surface, but for everyone else it's invisible.. The amount of FF incidents I've seen with the engi getting blamed for bad directions when in reality the other players had no hope of seeing the mines he's placed.

[dedmen]

The engineer sees it practically sitting on the surface, but for everyone else it's invisible..

Since the person who put them down know where they are, they're still visible to them.

But I agree that's not really obvious to the engineer placing the mines. He needs to know that this is what happens. And most people don't I'd say.

https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/81e02a73369d341ef21d0b8fc1ad9c62e1688f2e/addons/explosives/functions/fnc_placeExplosive.sqf#L54

It digs it into the ground a little bit. But I cannot find code that differentiates the position between player and everyone else. At the end of that function the position is set globally. And is that even possible? Having a global vehicle at two different positions for different clients? Afaik not. Sounds more like Arma bug.

Does this happen for all mines? That they are lower for other clients? Or only for this specific one? Might just be too high digDistance combined with some Arma bug.

[Snak3Doc]

All mines from vanilla and rhs, the hight of the model effects if it's completely buried or visible for other clients. eg: -The M15 is invisible when placed through ace, but the VS50 has just the tip of the pressure plate showing (looks like a sticker on the ground and may as well be invisable) for the people who didn't place it. -The bouncing betty is higher for other players than the person who armed it. -The RHS PFM-1 is floating for other clients but is on the surface for the person who arms it.

Correction: theirs also this weirdness. The person who armed mines perspective > https://i.imgur.com/ahgQNZo.jpg My perspective > https://i.imgur.com/o1FmUYk.jpg The engi places and arms 3 different RHS AP mines with vanilla and then place the same mines again and arms with ace, the first row are visible at the same height for everyone, and the ace row is invisible to other clients, but for the engi the left and middle one are invisible and the right one is floating..

[654wak654]

If it's that sporadic + if there is nothing in the code that differentiates local and global, my train of thought isn't valid anymore. Though if done correctly it is still a cool idea.

[Phyma]

Since the author of the issue stated that this does not happen to IEDs then i think it's _digDistance that messes somethings up.

Because what I can tell IEDs have that var set to 0

https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/81e02a73369d341ef21d0b8fc1ad9c62e1688f2e/addons/explosives/functions/fnc_placeExplosive.sqf#L67-L73

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[Nemesi-BDR]

Along with

If it's that sporadic + if there is nothing in the code that differentiates local and global, my train of thought isn't valid anymore. Though if done correctly it is still a cool idea.

I think it could be a cool idea if it could be possible to differentiate between surfaces, i.e. you can bury the mine (= mines are invisible, still visible to those who placed them) on dirty roads or grass, but not on asphalt or concrete. That would be very cool! Or either make that you can't dig mines on those surfaces (asphalt, concrete). That would be cool too and plausible imo.